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#1 04 19 2007, 09 10 PM teemingONE Guest Join Date Aug 2002 Is it illegal to buy cigarettes online?
I remember there was a big deal about buying cigarettes online a while ago, something about going around taxes and stuff.
Would I get into trouble if I buy cigarettes online?
(shipping to Jersey) teemingONE View Public Profile Find all posts by teemingONE Advertisements #2 04 19 2007, 09 14 PM Airman Doors, USAF Charter Member Join Date Feb 2001 Posts 13,061 The states aren’t going after people for buying them online, they’re going after people for ducking the state tax on cigarettes by buying them online. There is a good possibility that if you’ve been buying them online for a while you will be hit with a big tax bill. Here is a good example of what I’m talking about.
EDIT The article does say that online cigarette purchases are illegal in 10 states. I missed that when I skimmed it. My apologies.
Last edited by Airman Doors, USAF 04 19 2007 at 09 16 PM.. Airman Doors, USAF View Public Profile Find all posts by Airman Doors, USAF #3 04 19 2007, 09 15 PM pinkfreud Guest Join Date Jul 2002 «From New Jersey to Michigan to Oklahoma, state revenue departments are cracking down in unison… In January, a New Jersey man received a tax bill for $4,100 from the state’s treasury department, for two years’ worth of taxes he didn’t pay on Pall Mall cartons.»
Found here. pinkfreud View Public Profile Find all posts by pinkfreud #4 04 19 2007, 09 15 PM Shagnasty Charter Member Join Date May 2000 Posts 21,930 You most likely won’t get in trouble as a consumer. However, your state really, really wants to see those tax stamps at the bottom of the pack to get their cut of their money. Even as a non smoker this really disgusts me but it is what it is. Like lots of things, state law hasn’t caught up with Internet realities. It isn’t really legal if that is what you are asking but they aren’t going to haul you to prison personally either. Shagnasty View Public Profile Find all posts by Shagnasty #5 04 19 2007, 09 41 PM teemingONE Guest Join Date Aug 2002 I understand.
How do I go about getting the packs stamped? teemingONE View Public Profile Find all posts by teemingONE #6 04 19 2007, 09 45 PM Airman Doors, USAF Charter Member Join Date Feb 2001 Posts 13,061 Buy them at the corner convenience store or the supermarket, of course. The tax has already been assessed and paid on those. Airman Doors, USAF View Public Profile Find all posts by Airman Doors, USAF #7 04 19 2007, 09 57 PM teemingONE Guest Join Date Aug 2002 Quote Originally Posted by Airman Doors, USAF Buy them at the corner convenience store or the supermarket, of course. The tax has already been assessed and paid on those. Yeah, but I figure if I buy them wholesale and pay the tax, I’ll still be saving money. Am I totally wrong about that? teemingONE View Public Profile Find all posts by teemingONE #8 04 19 2007, 10 09 PM Airman Doors, USAF Charter Member Join Date Feb 2001 Posts 13,061 I’m not equipped to answer that. I wouldn’t know who you’d have to pay the tax to.
You might want to refer to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives website or the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau website to get your answer in that regard.
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/ Airman Doors, USAF View Public Profile Find all posts by Airman Doors, USAF #9 04 20 2007, 03 04 AM t bonham Guest Join Date Mar 2003 In Minnesota, you can just buy them online (or at one of the Indian casinos) and declare that and pay the tax when you pay your income taxes.
The same thing you are supposed to do if you buy anything online where they don’t charge you the Minnesota Sales & Use Tax you are supposed to report that & pay the tax along with your income taxes. Very few people do, though. t bonham View Public Profile Find all posts by t bonham #10 04 20 2007, 06 08 AM MizGrand Guest Join Date Mar 1999 If you would like to be hooked up with a site that doesn’t report sales PM me and I’ll share my source. I’ve used 2 different sites, one reports the sales. Each annual quarter I receive a tax notice from California instructing to pay tax on those cartons that were reported. Most recently (like three days ago) I had to mail off a check for an ADDITIONAL $36 in taxes to CA. Which, in actuality, made each of those cartons MORE EXPENSIVE than buying in a stinkin’ 7 11. I think the carton price was like $45 and I can get a carton here a smoke shop for $35. Online I pay $26 per, plus shipping, which makes final cost $27.50.
Actually, if you consequently order from them, we will both get a nice discount out of it as a «referral».
Mods, if this is inappropos, please let me know & I’ll not do it again!
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Last edited by MizGrand 04 20 2007 at 06 10 AM.. Reason deleted duplicate text MizGrand View Public Profile Find all posts by MizGrand #11 04 22 2007, 10 25 PM Neptunian Slug Guest Join Date Jun 2005 Its not illegal, but as folks have stated its possible that you will get a tax bill from the state. In most cases, they are going after large purchasers, but you never know. States are hungry for cash. My advice is to buy off an Indian Reservation that has a record not reporting sales to the state. Or just drive to Delaware and stock up. You’ll pay about $27 a carton. Neptunian Slug View Public Profile Find all posts by Neptunian Slug #12 01 06 2013, 05 52 PM t bonham Guest Join Date Mar 2003 Quote Originally Posted by Neptunian Slug Its not illegal, but as folks have stated its possible that you will get a tax bill from the state. In most cases, they are going after large purchasers, but you never know. States are hungry for cash. My advice is to buy off an Indian Reservation that has a record not reporting sales to the state. Or just drive to Delaware and stock up. You’ll pay about $27 a carton. Here in Minnesota, the Reservations are mostly reached by only 1 or 2 roads. The state periodically stops cars on that road, checks the cigarettes for a tax stamp, and collects the tax on unstamped ones (and maybe a penalty?). They seem to stop only the cars that have cigarettes like they have surveillance on the Reservation smoke shop. These do seem to have a coincidental connection to the state budget shortfalls.
And though the tribe doesn’t report sales to the state, people sometimes get a bill from the state tax department for cigarette purchases at the Reservation, with fairly accurate details. It’s rumored that the state tax people pay undercover informants at the Reservation, or that they have access to credit card records from there. t bonham View Public Profile Find all posts by t bonham #13 01 06 2013, 07 22 PM ed anger Guest Join Date Nov 2012 Quote Originally Posted by Shagnasty You most likely won’t get in trouble as a consumer. However, your state really, really wants to see those tax stamps at the bottom of the pack to get their cut of their money. Even as a non smoker this really disgusts me but it is what it is. Like lots of things, state law hasn’t caught up with Internet realities. It isn’t really legal if that is what you are asking but they aren’t going to haul you to prison personally either. You realize that states are trying to go after all internet purchases. ed anger View Public Profile Find all posts by ed anger #14 01 06 2013, 08 20 PM Leo Bloom Keeping my password unchanged Join Date Jun 2009 Posts 6,450 Quote Originally Posted by teemingONE Yeah, but I figure if I buy them wholesale and pay the tax, I’ll still be saving money. Am I totally wrong about that? Buying them wholesale implies that you have a particular tax ID that you are a r
etailer or import/export guy.
Hang out a shingle, and best of luck! Leo Bloom View Public Profile Find all posts by Leo Bloom #15 01 06 2013, 10 06 PM Derleth Guest Join Date Apr 2000 Do zombies buy cigarettes? Derleth View Public Profile Find all posts by Derleth